General Discussion

[DULOVEMEDO]

2 minutes ago, HitchcockBlonde said:

from the chainsmokers' official reddit account, seems they thought cardi would be involved as well

 

 

I guess she was dropped because of the whole fighting and drama.

[Stormbringer]

She seriously looks so good as Gisele   

 

Wyomi >>>>>>>  Kardashians

[phenobarbie]

Wyomi looks amazing. Unfortunately the Kardashians bring a helluva lot more "free" publicity.

[Beauty Junky]

5 hours ago, RIP_Cabrini_Green said:

I would like to get one final complaint in if I may....

 

for musical performers... LANY just put out a dope fucking album and they would’ve been sooo good for the show.

Nah, LANY’s new album is not that great! 

[Afutureoffashi0n]

13 minutes ago, MV007 said:

2 points. First, Taylor is going to kill in the opening. Why? Because 99% of the audience couldn’t tell the difference between the strongest walk and the weakest walk. Hardly anyone watching will give a shit about that. But what is undeniable is that Taylor is gorgeous and she’ll be wearing lingerie. That’s a recipe for success. 

 

As to the ratings. Ratings have been decreasing for every show on television for years. Viewership is down period for a variety of reasons having nothing to do with VS brand or marketing or anything VS controls.  But if you want to keep telling yourself it’s because VS is not embracing your snowflake or because VS is choosing to push some model you hate then go ahead and keep telling yourself that. 

No I don’t think you understand how the media works. This is a one off live event for its popularity to dwindle so drastically year on year ALONGSIDE profits is genuinely a good indicator that things aren’t doing well - even if the profits were fine it would be clear that there is a serious issue for such a drop. 

 

Unsure of what your snowflake comments mean hut they are they are just rude there is no particular model I dislike who has casted bar those who didn’t attend castings - but the castings of those stereotypical teenage looking girls IS part of the problem 

[phang.s]

15 minutes ago, MV007 said:

2 points. First, Taylor is going to kill in the opening. Why? Because 99% of the audience couldn’t tell the difference between the strongest walk and the weakest walk. Hardly anyone watching will give a shit about that. But what is undeniable is that Taylor is gorgeous and she’ll be wearing lingerie. That’s a recipe for success. 

 

As to the ratings. Ratings have been decreasing for every show on television for years. Viewership is down period for a variety of reasons having nothing to do with VS brand or marketing or anything VS controls.  But if you want to keep telling yourself it’s because VS is not embracing your snowflake or because VS is choosing to push some model you hate then go ahead and keep telling yourself that. 

A 32% drop in viewers in one year is not just because the natural trends in declining views. People clearly are lacking interest in watching and it also shows in their sales and how people currently reference the brand. 

[Afutureoffashi0n]

Kendall’s walk is great - it’s a shame her attitude stinks

[Afutureoffashi0n]

Just now, phang.s said:

A 32% drop in viewers in one year is not just because the natural trends in declining views. People clearly are lacking interest in watching and it also shows in their sales and how people currently reference the brand. 

LOL literally it’s common sense 

[Scarlet]

25 minutes ago, HitchcockBlonde said:

from the chainsmokers' official reddit account, seems they thought cardi would be involved as well

 

 

Cute

[starss]

Well the performers are surprising. I'm happy with them actually. I love The Chainsmokers but I dont think their new songs fits runway (maybe Side Effects?). I'm also happy with Halsey and Rita too. Don't know about Shawn or Bebe or the other artist because I don't follow them but hey.. Soo much better than last year's performers!

 

I'm also really happy about Taylor opening, she deserves. I wish it was Sara or Romee but no big problem. I still don't agree that angels have 2 outfits but ok.. Patiently waiting to know who got the FB, please VS anyone but Stella or older angels. 

Edited November 2, 2018 by starss
Pressed Enter without writing all I wanted, fk me..

[Afutureoffashi0n]

1 minute ago, Scarlet said:

 

Cute

Bless they compared it to the Super Bowl 

[Andrew Van Der Hypp]

I’ve never listened to a Chainsmokers song in my life.

[Afutureoffashi0n]

Rita Ora is the worst - the girls been trying for a decade and her career is still nonexistent lol

[MV007]

15 minutes ago, Afutureoffashi0n said:

LOL literally it’s common sense 

It actually happens a lot. If you want to say this is a one off event compared to traditional shows that have multiple episodes that’s fine. I’m not sure how that manifests itself but ok. 

 

If if you want we compare it with something like the oscars which is a special event. That was down 20 percent year to year. Grammys were down 24%.  

[BenByunghun]

Surprised it took so long for "traditional media is dead" "low ratings don't mean anything" crowd to start chirping. 

[Afutureoffashi0n]

2 minutes ago, MV007 said:

It actually happens a lot. If you want to say this is a one off event compared to traditional shows that have multiple episodes that’s fine. I’m not sure how that manifests itself but ok. 

 

If if you want we compare it with something like the oscars which is a special event. That was down 20 percent year to year. Grammys were down 24%.  

Yeah and that’s because US award shows have also faced a difficult time because they too failed to innovate but also naturally because there’s no need to watch when you have social media or the vote is not close. You have to be in denial to ignore these figures for VS show the brands on the down

[MV007]

22 minutes ago, phang.s said:

A 32% drop in viewers in one year is not just because the natural trends in declining views. People clearly are lacking interest in watching and it also shows in their sales and how people currently reference the brand. 

 Yea I won’t comment on the brand itself. I’m a guy and have no idea what the strength of brand is because I don’t purchase their merchandise and know nothing of the industry. But as to the show, i think the viewership can be mostly explained by the tv environment we are in. 

[Freak]

I thought Rita Ora was a model or an actress because i only see her at red carpets. Today i found out she is a singer 😂 That says it all

[Afutureoffashi0n]

2 minutes ago, MV007 said:

 Yea I won’t comment on the brand itself. I’m a guy and have no idea what the strength of brand is because I don’t purchase their merchandise and know nothing of the industry. But as to the show, i think the viewership can be mostly explained by the tv environment we are in. 

Oh fair enough, no the show had uncharacteristically great ratings just five years ago when they booked huge acts like Taylor Swift and made a big event of it but the actual brands fall from grace is reflected in the show 

[MV007]

Just now, Afutureoffashi0n said:

Yeah and that’s because US award shows have also faced a difficult time because they too failed to innovate but also naturally because there’s no need to watch when you have social media or the vote is not close. You have to be in denial to ignore these figures for VS show the brands on the down

 

Innovate how exactly? It’s lingerie runway show. It is what it is. That’s not to say they can’t improve things. My main point is that the ratings declines have nothing to do with the angels and any perceived slight towards one and pushing of another. The general public knows next to nothing of these girls.